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Video Gallery Cataloging Data: Doc Cheatham

Location

Schomburg-MIRS



Call #

Sc Visual VRA-183 Service copy. 

Sc Visual VRB-2016 Original of: Sc Visual VRA-183. 



Author

Cheatham, Doc, interviewee. 



Title

Oral history interview with Doc Cheatham, 1 April 1993

[videorecording] / interviewer, Jimmy Owens.



Imprint

1993



Description

2 videocassettes (2 hrs., 36 min.) : sd., col. ; 1/2 in.

023600



Note

Title supplied; duration: 2 hrs., 36 min.



Credits

Produced and directed by James Briggs Murray.



Note

Doc Cheatham performs excerpts, trumpet.



Summary

The oral history interview with Doc Cheatham documents his childhood

in Nashville. Father was a barber who had white customers and friends;

brother was a dentist. Cheatham began playing trumpet at 12; later

cornet and soprano sax. There were no teachers, instructional tools

or radio, so Doc learned by ear. Joined a local church band (Bright

Future Stars Club) and played cornet; organizer contacted local circus

band for instruction. Johnny Dunn released a hit album; influenced

Cheatham greatly. Aunt was a vocalist at Tukegee; taught Doc breathing

and throat techniques. Joined the pit band of Nashville's Bijou

Theater. Did gigs at various universities: Vandebilt, Fisk, etc. Met 

Jerry Blake at the Bijou and, soon thereafter, Joe Smith; toured with

Mary Lou Williams. First professional break came with the Sunshine

Sammy revue, then John Williams (1924). Moved to Chicago; played cornet

and sax, but still could not read music; worked as a dishwasher to

support himself; felt he had no business among such talent.  Gave away

sax, sold cornet and returned to Nashville to study pharmacy. In 

Nashville, beagn playing trumet exclusively. Learned to read music

and returned to Chicago. Played with Albert Wynn, led his own band 

(1926), and subbed for Louis Armstrong as soloist. Collaborations 

with Wilbur de Paris and Chick Webb followed (1927-1928). 





Joined Sam Wooding in NYC and spend 3 years in Europe as lead trumpet

(1927-1930); talks about Tommy Ladnier, fellow trumpet in Wooding's

band. Returned to the US and played with Marion Hardy's Alabamians 

(1930-1932). Met Benny Carter when McKinney's Cotton Pickers needed

a trumpet player; followed Carter and stayed in Detroit with the

Cotton Pickers for a year. Then, replacing Reuben Reeves, joined Cab

Calloway's  band in NYC as lead trumpet (1933-1939). Talks about

other trumpet players in Cab's band: Lammar Wright and Irving 

Randolph; also Ed Swayzee trombone), Benny Payne (piano), Al Morgan 

(bass). Milt Hinton later succeeded Morgan; Cozy Cole became drummer.

Cab's band went to Hollywood and appeared in films with Bing Crosby

and Al Johnson. After Cab, joined Teddy Wilson's Big Band. Developed 

a spot on his lung; returned to Nashville for lengthy rest. Returned

to play Sound of Jazz with Count Basie and Billie Holiday, later the

International House. Joined Eddie Heywood and played Village clubs, 

including a number of solos (1943-1945). To overcome physical strain,

began using diaphragm rather than chest; also began exercising and 

customizing the use of his lips. Performed with Perez Prado and other

Latin-American musicians. Talks about his peers: Smith brothers, Rex

Stuart, Nat Adderley, Arthur Briggs, Bill Coleman, Freddie Keppard,

Armstrong, etc. Performed with Sammy Price and Herbie Mann; led own

band (1960-1965) and with Benny Goodman (1966-1967).



Cheatham and Owens discuss white trumpet players: the union had a 

law that white musicians could not go to Chicago's South Side; but

they came anyway, especially to hear Jimmy Noone at the Apex Club.

Discussion of Armstrong and trumpet history follow. Doc first heard 

Armstrong in King Oliver's band. There Armstrong did not play solo;

rather, he performed under Oliver's tutelage.  Armstrong is compared

to Bix Beiderbecke and Earl Hines (creator of "trumpet style" for

piano intended to accompany Armstrong).  Doc shuns such comparisons:

no one has yet upset Armstrong's trumpet tradition. Concludes by 

claiming a lack of definitive style in his own music and discussing

contemporary jazz. Talks about the circular breathing technique 

(Wynton Marsalis). Plays at Sweet Basil on Sundays, lectures at

various universities and is awaiting the publication of first book.



Note

Reproduction. Originally produced: New York, N.Y. : Schomburg Center

for Research in Black Culture, The New York Public Library, 1993.

2 videocassettes (MII) ; 1/2 in. VHS.



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Permission required to cite, quote and reproduce; contact repository

for information.



Biography/History

Doc Cheatham is a trumpet player, composer, lecturer and writer.

Born Adolphus Anthony Cheatham on June 13, 1905 in Nashville,

Tenn. His father gave him a cornet, prompting an early career in

theater bands (vaudeville and burlesque). The move to Chicago and 

subsequent influence of Louis Armstrong and other trumpet greats 

prompted him to play the trumpet seriously and exclusively.



Note

Forms part of: Louis Armstrong Jazz Oral History Project.



In

Louis Armstrong Jazz Oral History Project.



Subject

Cheatham, Doc -- Interviews. 

Cheatham, Doc -- Childhood and youth. 

Williams, Mary Lou, 1910- 

Smith, Joe, 1902-1973. 

Dunn, Johnny, 1897-1937 -- Influence. 

Blake, Jerry, 1908-ca. 1961. 

Capone, Al, 1899-1947 -- Influence. 

Wynn, Albert, 1907- 

Armstrong, Louis, 1900-1971 -- Influence. 

De Paris, Wilbur. 

Webb, Chick. 

Wooding, Sam, 1895-1985. 

Ladnier, Tommy. 

Cheatham, Doc -- Performances -- Europe. 

Carter, Benny. 

Calloway, Cab, 1907- 

Wright, Lammar, 1907-1973. 

Randolph, Irving, 1909- 

Cheatham, Doc -- Health. 

Basie, Count, 1904- 

Holiday, Billie, 1915-1959. 

Prado, Perez. 

Noone, Jimmy, 1895-1944 -- Influence. 

Oliver, King, 1885-1938. 

Hines, Earl, 1903-1983. 

Beiderbecke, Bix, 1903-1931. 

Marsalis, Wynton, 1961- 

Bright Future Stars Club. 

Chick Webb Orchestra. 

Marion Hardy's Alabamians. 

McKinney's Cotton Pickers. 

Missourians. 

Cab Calloway Orchestra. 

Teddy Wilson Big Band. 

Jimmie Noone's Apex Club Orchestra. 

King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band. 

Jazz musicians -- United States. 

Trumpet players -- United States. 

Afro-American musicians. 

Afro-American composers. 

Nashville (Tenn.) -- Race relations. 

Cornet -- Methods -- Self-instruction. 

Cornet -- Studies and exercises (Jazz). 

Trumpet -- Methods (Jazz). 

Trumpet -- Methods -- Self-instruction. 

Trumpet -- Studies and exercises (Jazz). 

Saxophone -- Studies and exercises (Jazz). 

Mafia -- Illinois -- Chicago -- Influence. 

Chicago (Ill.) -- Race relations. 

Afro-American musicans -- Race relations. 

Jazz musicians -- Legal status, laws, etc. -- Illinois -- Chicago. 

Trumpet -- History -- 20th century. 

Trumpet and piano music -- History -- 20th century. 



Form/genre

Interviews. 

Biographies.2mim 



Additional name

Owens, Jimmy, interviewer. 

Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture. Louis Armstrong

Jazz Oral History Project. 

Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture. 



Donor

The Louis Armstrong Jazz Oral History Project was funded by the

Louis Armstrong Educational Foundation, Inc.